Posts Tagged ‘atheist’

Therefore God Gave Them Over…

Posted September 20, 2008 by Charles
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A new study out of Baylor has some interesting things to say about secularism and superstition.  Mollie from GetReligion has a piece out in the Journal that looks at the data.

The answers were added up to create an index of belief in occult and the paranormal. While 31% of people who never worship expressed strong belief in these things, only 8% of people who attend a house of worship more than once a week did.

Even among Christians, there were disparities. While 36% of those belonging to the United Church of Christ, Sen. Barack Obama’s former denomination, expressed strong beliefs in the paranormal, only 14% of those belonging to the Assemblies of God, Sarah Palin’s former denomination, did. In fact, the more traditional and evangelical the respondent, the less likely he was to believe in, for instance, the possibility of communicating with people who are dead.

I’m trying to work through how to consider this. Read more

I Actually Agree With an Atheist

Posted July 25, 2008 by Charles
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Hemant Mehta, author of I Sold My Soul on eBay, was interviewed in the last issue of Wineskins.  He’s an athiest who set up an eBay auction promising “that for each $10 of the final bid, he would attend an hour of church services. The 23-year-old … says he suspected he had been missing out on something. The winning bidder actually asked him to visit 10-15 church services, then write about them. I was surpised to find that in this interview he said a few things I agree with.

“…the pastors were speaking to a group of believers; however, I still didn’t get the feeling that the various congregations were going to question anything the pastors said.”

“I was shocked because I rarely saw critical thinking going on. I thought the churches would emphasize the reasons for believing a lot more than they actually did.”

“I took the phrase “Bible Study” much more literally than I should have. There was very little questioning of whether we should believe everything we read, and much more of “The Bible says it so it must be true.” I’m sure Christians would become stronger in their faith with more of the former…” Read more

Bouncing Around the ‘Sphere

Posted December 9, 2007 by Charles
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Philemon & OnesimusI was checking out Mike Cope’s blog, which I don’t get to read often enough, and saw this post about Philemon, aptly titled: “Philemon”. While Mike and I have some different ideas about Paul’s position on slavery, those thoughts went to the back burner when I read this comment:

I mean, seriously…I was only a sophomore at a certain college when I realized, “Hey, if God didn’t create people until later in the week, who was writing down all the things he did on days one and two?”

And then began my slow descent into something other than CoC orthodoxy. Once you open that door…

It makes me sad that he wasn’t taught much sooner about the books of Moses. How can the church allow someone to live 20 years as a member of the body and not teach them something so simple? Read more

Physicalism in Science (Updated)

Posted August 13, 2007 by Charles
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Physicalism: the metaphysical position that everything which exists has a physical property; that is, that there are no kinds of things other than physical things.

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While contemplating the opening salvo of The God Delusion, I started thinking about the ideas of naturalism, materialism, and physicalism in relation to the scientific search to disprove the existence of God. After a while something was nagging at me…it just didn’t fit, logically.

Many people argue that the basis for Christian belief is circular. See Ryan’s second comment on my God Delusion chapter one post. The explanation I’ve heard most often is that the Bible says God is real, and since the Bible says it’s God’s word, it’s true. If all you’re basing your belief on is blind acceptance that the Bible is the truth, then it is quite circular.

But it finally clicked for me yesterday that this crusade undertaken by Richard Dawkins and many other scientists, to effectively disprove the existence of God through science is equally circular. Read more

Fear and Loathing

Posted July 16, 2007 by Charles
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I used to be paralyzed by fear. Not in all ways, but in some.

As a college student I was so afraid that God might not be real that I refused to hear any arguments against him, in case they were really convincing. I was also afraid that my perspective on the Bible was totally wrong, so I avoided any positions that might be convincing.

Well, after reading both positions for and against God, and Biblical positions I agree with and that I disagree with, I realized that my fears were unfounded. Since then I’ve dived in and pursued every differing position I could (that seemed worth the time).

Why did I lose my fear, you ask? Because of quotes like this:

There are two ways in which scripture might be a source of morals or rules for living. One is by direct instruction, for example through the Ten Commandments, which are the subject of such bitter contention in the culture wars of America’s boondocks. The other is by example: God, or some other biblical character, might serve as – to use the contemporary jargon – a role model. Both scriptural routes, if followed through religiously (the adverb is used in its metaphoric sense but with an eye to its origin), encourage a system of morals which any civilized modern person, whether religious or not, would find – I can put it no more gently – obnoxious…

In any case, despite the good intentions of the sophisticated theologian, a frighteningly large number of people still do take their scriptures, including the story of Noah, literally. According to Gallup, they include approximately 50 per cent of the US electorate. Also, no doubt, many of those Asian holy men who blamed the 2004 tsunami not on a plate tectonic shift but on human sins, ranging from drinking and dancing in bars to breaking some footling sabbath rule. Steeped in the story of Noah, and ignorant of all except biblical learning, who can blame them?

He follows the second one with some lines about people who have blamed natural disasters, like Hurricane Katrina, on sin. That’s a good argument against religion, particularly Christianity: the fallibility of humans. We always claim that all Christians are perfect, therefore anything a Christian says or does that is wrong, such as blaming natural disasters on the sin of those who are affected, reflects the beliefs and positions of the whole of Christendom.

Uh, no. And, though he asserts it to be true, the system of morals found in the Bible is not something that “any civilized modern person…would find…obnoxious.” In response I assert that no intelligent or well educated, civilized, modern person would take seriously a book about religion written by a (pop) scientist with no theological training. Particularly if said book has a shiny silver cover.

Here’s another:

“You might say that because science can explain just about everything but not quite, it’s wrong to say therefore we don’t need God. It is also, I suppose, wrong to say we don’t need the Flying Spaghetti Monster, unicorns, Thor, Wotan, Jupiter, or fairies at the bottom of the garden. There’s an infinite number of things that some people at one time or another have believed in, and an infinite number of things that nobody has believed in. If there’s not the slightest reason to believe in any of those things, why bother? The onus is on somebody who says, I want to believe in God, Flying Spaghetti Monster, fairies, or whatever it is. It is not up to us to disprove it.”

Why is the burden of proof on the believer? The belief existed first, so, logially, the burden should be on the one questioning the established belief. We see this over and over within Christianity where the burden of proof is on the challenger of the traditional position. Those, like Luther, who have Scriptural evidence succeed; those who do not, like Marcion, fail.

Dawkins also asserts that by showing the possibility of God to be very very small, he creates an argument that is indefensible. But someone tell me this: what are the odds of random elements combining in a pool and spontaneously becoming life? Is it repeatable? Seems pretty unlikely.

These are all reasons I’m no longer afraid.

Fear drives us. What I think drives a lot of people like Dawkins is a fear that God may be real. They worry about what will happen to them or their friends if God is real and they don’t believe, so they go into denial about the possibility. The same could, of course be said of believers, but that doesn’t bother me. The real difference is found in a personal encounter with God. If you’ve never had one, you’re almost incapable of understanding why someone would choose belief over unbelief.

But since I’ve had encounters with God, and have a relationship with Christ, I understand the choices I’m making. The difference between the two is as stark as the difference between Saul overseeing the stoning of Stephen and Paul sweeping across Macedonia proclaiming Christ.

Peter Berkowitz has more to say.

Adam’s Blog reviews a book, The Minor Protection Act, about what could result from the new new atheists crusade.

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