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Science vs. Religion: “A big misunderstanding”

Posted January 27, 2009 by Charles
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Great scientist; bad philosopher.

Great scientist; bad philosopher.

I caught an article on the persistence of religion in the face of science at Spiegel Online. The discussion is fairly typical apologia at first, but with a surprisingly even hand. Some pieces of the article demonstrate just how blind many naturalists are to philosophical and ontological possibilities.

So maybe it’s just a big misunderstanding? Hardly. Some academics like to point out that certain questions are beyond the scope of science, such as the ultimate source of the universe and whether there is a higher purpose to its existence. But even in these metaphysical realms, there is overlap. “Religions make existence claims, and this means scientific claims,” says Richard Dawkins, biologist, bestselling author and figurehead of the so-called New Atheists. “A universe with a supernatural presence would be a fundamentally and qualitatively different kind of universe from one without.”

It’s hard to doubt that this statement is true. But it’s full of ambiguity. Dawkins says nothing about what that qualitative difference might look like, and there’s a simple reason for that. If our universe has always had a supernatural presence, then you’d have no way of knowing what a universe without one would look like.

The more so, I say, because truly to enjoy bodily warmth, some small part of you must be cold, for there is no quality in this world that is not what it is merely by contrast. Nothing exists in itself. If you flatter yourself that you are all over comfortable, and have been so a long time, then you cannot be said to be comfortable any more.

Moby Dick (italics mine)

The only way to test his statement, in order to explain the differences, would be to find a universe that has such a presence, and compare it with one that doesn’t. I feel safe in saying that we won’t see that experiment any time soon. So the statement, while philosophically interesting, serves no explanatory purpose.

Science, ironically, is finding answers to the question of why evolution stands such a poor chance against religion. There is growing evidence that man, as a result of his brain, is wired to believe in higher powers, not just because of his fear of death.

This seems like a new question, but Qohelet answered it a few thousand years ago: “He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men; yet they cannot fathom what God has done from beginning to end. ((Eccl. 3:11))” Paul also Got in on this one: “…since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. ((Romans 1:19-20))” Yes, I agree with the hypothesis that our brains are wired to believe, I just don’t agree that it was a product of evolution.

It seems to be a big misunderstanding indeed.

Totally in Charge

Posted November 25, 2008 by Charles
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Last week, after downloading the New XBox Experience, I immeidately signed up for Netflix streaming, and it is the best thing ever. I’m so glad it’s come into my life.

My wife and I decide to start out with something we might both enjoy watching.  Our choice?  Charles in Charge, season 1.  If you’ve never seen it, or haven’t watched it in a long time, watch the pilot.  It was one of the funniest things I’ve seen in a long time (just remember that my sense of humor has lately been influenced by a 1-year-old). Just being able to watch this show will make the $8.99/month for the service worth it.

Last night I watched Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed. It was really interesting.  I know that it was an advocacy documentary (but that’s okay, because I’m in favor of what it’s advocating), but it really was compelling. One of the more interesting things was that people like Richard Dawkins and P.Z. Meyers seemed to be very clear about their positions, and it looked like they producers gave them ample time to explain themselves.

One of the best parts was when Richard Dawkins offered a scenario which he called “intriguing” that was actually in favor of intelligent design: that extremely advanced aliens designed new life forms and seeded them on earth. He doesn’t see this as an argument for intelligent design, because it doesn’t mention a deity, but it does explain an intelligent designer.

One of the points that ID advocates have tried to make is that it’s not a religious movement. It finds quite a bit of support in the religious arena, but that’s not it’s basis.  It is a scientific argument. And Dawkins admitted as much with his support of the alien theory.

The most depressing, and frightening, section was the discussion of eugenics. It didn’t have a long history in it’s fullest form – the forced sterilization of those deemed unfit to reproduce – but it’s institution, begun by Margaret Sanger, has endured. Planned Parenthood began in 1921 as the American Birth Control League.  I’ve read, and written some, about eugenics in the past. It’s a scary deal, and it’s something that has its philosophical root in the theory of evolution.

There are a lot of things to discuss between ID and Evolution, and I wish someone would have the conversation and stop acting like aliens dropping off some amoebas or cells forming spontaneously on the outside of a crystal is more probable than a designer.

What Is the Cambrian Explosion?

Posted August 22, 2007 by Charles
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tree.jpg“The Cambrian Explosion has uprooted Darwin’s tree.” Jonathan Wells, Ph.D.

I began reading Lee Strobel’s The Case for a Creator about a week ago, and I’ve started investigating some of the evidence presented. Right now I’m reading about the “Cambrian Explosion”. The article is working so hard to maintain a materialist perspective that I have to give the writer credit and highlight the true achievements. The format for this post will be a quote from the article, followed by a comment from yours truly.

First I’ll explain what we’re dealing with. Up until about 540 million years ago, all that existed were jellyfish, sea urchins, and sponges. There were plenty of single celled organisms, but who really cares about them? Anyway, suddenly over a period of about 20 million years (or 80, depending on your source), an enormous diversification of animal life occurred. The article says “evolution would accelerate by an order of magnitude.” Sounds pretty fast.

To a Christian, this sounds like God creating the animals. Let’s see what others have to say:

The Cambrian explosion is special because the fossil record apparently shows that almost all of the phyla which provide the vast majority of fossils appeared in the first 20 to 30M years of the Cambrian – molluscs, arthropods, brachiopods, echinoderms, hemichordata and chordata…So at first sight a wide range of complex animals evolved from “blobs” in under 30M years.

Sure, 30M seems like a long time, at least a half-hour longer than Babel. For those of you thinking that this is a tick in the red corner, the writer has some news for you:

But the word “phylum” does not describe a fundamental division of nature (not like the difference between electrons and protons). It simply refers to a very high level in the classification system created by Linnaeus in the 18th century to describe all the animals which are alive to-day.

I guess the basic argument is that the word is useless because it wasn’t invented back then. What’s that you say? There weren’t people back then? Not important.

It seems that people are running out of ways to make the conservative Christian position seem absurd, so they’ve decided to take a red pen to the dictionary. For more evidence consider the now derogatory meanings of “evangelical” or “fundamentalist” (despite their original definitions), or the Emergent adjustments of simple words like “theology”, “church”, and “evangelism”. Here it sounds ridiculous even with the questionable meaning:

This system is not perfect even for modern animals: different books quote different numbers of phyla, mainly because they disagree about the classification of a huge number of worm-like species…the last common ancestor of arthropods and molluscs was neither an arthropod nor a mollusc, and probably did not belong to any modern phylum – but would have been about as complex as an arthropod or mollusc.

Even if you put the worms in one phyla, that’s not going to change the fact that the diversified ancestors of crabs and snails and starfish and sharks appeared at the same time. And of course the last common ancestor or arthropods and molluscs wasn’t either one (if there was a common ancestor at all), the two phyla didn’t exist yet!

Further insights were provided by the work on North American fauna by Walcott, who proposed that an interval of time, or the “Lipalian”, was not represented in the fossil record, or did not preserve fossils, and that the ancestral forms to the Cambrian taxa evolved during this time.

I like how this is called “insight”. It’s a very generous description. And people say it’s “convenient” that God is immaterial and so can’t be detected by science. The best way to explain this is to say that all the ancestors of these phyla evolved according to the theory but left no fossils? How is that not pointed at as the purely speculative excuse-making that it is?

If the process really took about 10M years, that would mean that all the known phyla (major types of animals) emerged from nowhere in an astonishingly short time. We would have to find explanations for why this evolution was so fast, why it accelerated so abruptly and and why it slowed down to a more “normal” pace; and we might even have to look for some extraordinary “one time only” mechanism.

Now the best way to explain it is to say that this completely natural thing happened, creating an explosion of highly complex, differentiated life, but just the one time, and for no reason at all. The sad thing about it is that so many people have been or will be convinced that this explanation would be more plausible than God.

But some were probably early forms of the phyla at the heart of the debate about the “Cambrian explosion”. Kimberella was very probably a mollusc (see below). Spriggina was probably a trilobite and therefore an arthropod.[25] Arkarua was probably an echinoderm, although it lacked a feature present in later echinoderms (stereom, a unique crystalline form of calcium carbonate from which their skeletons are built).[26]

How many times a person can use the worlds “might”, “possibly”, and “probably” without people realizing that he’s just guessing?

The earliest Cambrian trilobite fossils are about 530M years old, but even then they were quite diverse and world-wide, which suggests that these arthropods had been around for quite some time…The earliest generally-accepted echinoderms appeared at about the same time, although it has been suggested that some Ediacaran organisms were echinoderms…

Let’s add “suggests” to the list. Why can’t the fact that trilobites were “quite diverse and world-wide” suggest that they were created that way? Because as a “dyed-in-the-wool” materialist (borrowing a phrase from Dawkins), there must be a scientific answer, no matter how contrived. No evidence can be against it.

More recently and spectacularly, many molecular clock estimates place the origin of bilaterian animals well before the beginning of the Cambrian, perhaps more than 1 billion years ago…As a result, hypothetical Proterozoic bilaterians are usually thought to be some combination of tiny (planktonic or meiofaunal), immobile in sediment (e.g. sessile or planktonic) and without hard parts.[43] In theory, such hypotheses can be tested by phylogenetic reconstruction of the morphology of the most basal bilaterians.

So, not only are we taking this guess that the animals were in the bathroom getting ready for a half-million years before they finally came out (late for dinner, as always), but we can actually test the legitimacy of these “hypothetical” animals without any evidence whatsoever? How can a person say that with a straight face while at the same time believing that Intelligent Design Theory is an “argument from ignorance”? (To be fair, I don’t know what this particular guy thinks about Intelligent Design, but I’m still asking the question.)

Understanding why the Cambrian explosion happened when it did revolves around three major themes: i) extrinsic forcing events such as environmental change; ii) intrinsic mechanisms such as the acquisition of complex genomes; and iii) intrinsic mechanisms such as the natural consequences of metazoan ecology.

I like this one because, of three options, one requires an intelligent, transcendent being. What else could the “complex genomes” have been acquired from?

Everything I read in that article leads me to the conclusion that this event took place, and there is no stream (or shred) of evidence that suggests any answer that would fit into the realm of scientific materialism. So they started making stuff up. They call them “hypotheses” and “theories” and “suggestions”, but the last time I said “probably” that much was trying to explain to my mom how her vase broke even though I wasn’t playing soccer in the living room.

This is your friendly, neighborhood skeptic reminding you not to doubt the evidence, just the explanation.

In Memory of Counterpoints; August 5 – August 14, 2007

Posted August 15, 2007 by Charles
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barilarlingtoncemetery.jpgThe great (slight exaggeration) experiment is over. The short reason is that we couldn’t get along. It may be for the best though, because it was bound to be nothing but…well, an argument. That’s not necessarily bad, but, I’ll admit, I tend to go for the throat. Sometimes sarcastic, sometimes aggressive, always on point.

I usually enjoy the sport of it, particularly when my opponent is as aggressive and intense as I get. But alas, it was not meant to be. So, here at Power of Suggestion, I will be replacing my criticism of The God Delusion with a criticism of The Case for a Creator. Dawkins is a frustrating read for two reasons: first, he uses straw men, appeals to novelty, popularity, ridicule, and the spotlight fallacy, and that was just in the preface and first chapter.

I may at some point return to The God Delusion, if only because I can’t get my money back (and the shiny cover is attractive to my weak, religious mind). But for now it will lay on my shelf, much like to other books I’ve lost interest in. Of course, those are because I’d seen the movie already (The Illiad, The Count of Monte Cristo), this one is just bad. So, moving on.

I guess that since I’ve made a point to highlight the logical fallacies Dawkins employs in his writing, I’ll go back through my posts and make sure I haven’t done the same. Once that’s done I’ll share some insight into Jeremiah I got at church tonight, straight away.

Physicalism in Science (Updated)

Posted August 13, 2007 by Charles
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Physicalism: the metaphysical position that everything which exists has a physical property; that is, that there are no kinds of things other than physical things.

microscope.jpg

While contemplating the opening salvo of The God Delusion, I started thinking about the ideas of naturalism, materialism, and physicalism in relation to the scientific search to disprove the existence of God. After a while something was nagging at me…it just didn’t fit, logically.

Many people argue that the basis for Christian belief is circular. See Ryan’s second comment on my God Delusion chapter one post. The explanation I’ve heard most often is that the Bible says God is real, and since the Bible says it’s God’s word, it’s true. If all you’re basing your belief on is blind acceptance that the Bible is the truth, then it is quite circular.

But it finally clicked for me yesterday that this crusade undertaken by Richard Dawkins and many other scientists, to effectively disprove the existence of God through science is equally circular. Read more

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