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evilteabagger: stfuconservatives: Source: http://www.gallup.com/poll/1612/education.aspx So here’s the most baffling thing, these represent record results in both polls. People are at the same time the most historically dissatisfied with the education system yet the most satisfied that they’ve ever been with their own children’s education. Have we all just bought into the dialogue that our education system is awful or are we so diluted that we are incapable of believing that our own children could be suffering in it? -Joe Hmmm, this is interesting. I think this may show the public’s opinion on public education and its performance in relation to higher education. Notice how the bottom graph is their oldest child and their satisfaction with their education as opposed to k12. Very interesting seeing as how higher education is mostly for profit whereas k-12 is mostly state subsidized and controlled. The bottom represents the results from parents of K-12 public school students. It’s still pretty interesting. My bet is that it’s explained by self-selection - people in good neighborhoods/districts were probably overrepresented among those who agreed to respond. Everybody hears the test scores and sees the news specials…we know that the system is balled up. But the people with the time and interest to sit on the phone with a pollster probably don’t actually experience the system at its worst.

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stfuconservatives:

Source: http://www.gallup.com/poll/1612/education.aspx

So here’s the most baffling thing, these represent record results in both polls. People are at the same time the most historically dissatisfied with the education system yet the most satisfied that they’ve ever been with their own children’s education. Have we all just bought into the dialogue that our education system is awful or are we so diluted that we are incapable of believing that our own children could be suffering in it?

-Joe

Hmmm, this is interesting. I think this may show the public’s opinion on public education and its performance in relation to higher education. Notice how the bottom graph is their oldest child and their satisfaction with their education as opposed to k12. Very interesting seeing as how higher education is mostly for profit whereas k-12 is mostly state subsidized and controlled.

The bottom represents the results from parents of K-12 public school students. It’s still pretty interesting. My bet is that it’s explained by self-selection - people in good neighborhoods/districts were probably overrepresented among those who agreed to respond.

Everybody hears the test scores and sees the news specials…we know that the system is balled up. But the people with the time and interest to sit on the phone with a pollster probably don’t actually experience the system at its worst.

(Source: stfuconservatives)

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Apparently “only” has a new standard

Charles Blow referred to a Quinnipiac poll in a recent column that he says shows that the Tea Party movement is “not the future”. He quotes the poll in saying the movement is “less educated … than the average Joe and Jane Six-Pack.” I’m not sure who Joe and Jane are, but based on the last question in the poll, the membership is just as educated as the Democrats (both less educated than Republicans) while those who are favorable to the Tea Party are more educated than Democrats.

But the real problem with the Quinnipiac article announcing the poll results is the opening line: Only 13 percent of American voters say they are part of the Tea Party movement.

“Only” thirteen percent? Thirteen percent is not a small group. This is a poll of registered voters, who in 2008 numbered just over 231 million. That means there are 30 million members, based on this data. By comparison the ever-important MoveOn organization has 5 million.  When was the last time it was implied that they were irrelevant because they had so few members?

Sounds like someone’s trying to move the target.

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